Christ Michael; Nebadonia; Whispers in The Stillness - Session 9 - About Christ Michael and Nebadonia beginning - 05 Dec 2012

Celestials: 

• Christ Michael, our Divine parent
• Nebadonia:  The Divine Minister of Nebadon and Our Divine Parent

Topics:

• Did Christ Michael have a beginning?
• Did Nebadonia have a beginning?
• What is the telescopic effect of thought?
• Who enacts the Paradise Father’s thought?
• Who enacts our thoughts?
• Will Our Thoughts Echo For Eternity Through The Supreme?
• Are we All an Extension of Source?

05 December 2012

Paul, Opening Prayer:  Our dear Eternal Deities, Eternal Father, Eternal Son, Infinite Spirit, we’re so grateful for all that you’ve done for us.  The fact that we are here as a result of you all and your great love that you show for us in this vast universe of yours.  We’re also grateful to be a part of this benign universe of love and friendship; and we feel very blessed that Spirit continues to teach us and lead us and guide us.  There’s  many things that we continue to learn.  We understand that in our human minds sometimes we can’t understand everything that Spirit is bringing through.  We certainly pray that Spirit will help us to understand with what we have at this present time.  Again we are so thankful for this time that we have to speak with all of you in Spirit.  We send our love to all of you and look forward to what’s going to come through this evening.  We thank you.

I wanted to ask a question of the “birth,” so to speak of the Creator Son, and I would just like to quote from the Urantia Book and what it says here.

“When the fullness of absolute spiritual ideation in the Eternal Son encounters the fullness of absolute personality concept in the Universal Father, when such a creative union is finally and fully attained, when such absolute identity of spirit and such infinite oneness of personality concept occur, then, right then and there, without the loss of anything of personality and prerogative by either of the Infinite Deities, there flashes into full-fledged being a new and original Creator Son, the only- begotten Son of the perfect ideal and the powerful idea whose union produces this new creator personality of power and perfection.”

And my question is:  My dear Father Michael, what was it like on the day of your “birth,” so to speak?  What did you feel and experience at the time that you were flashed into being and you found yourself beside your  parents, the Eternal Father and the Eternal Son?

Michael:  As my Spirit moves through this circuit my son I once again wish to reiterate, when we speak of concepts of this magnitude and nature how immediately when the concept is brought forth in a word or even an explanation it is immediately frozen and subject to interpretation and perception.  In this case you have taken a quote from a book that is highly respected and also being utilized as the highest form of spiritual truth now on your world.  When you deal with such spiritual realities we can only try to relate it to your human reality in a way that you can understand through concepts.

When I was “flashed” into existence, so to speak, I realized that I had always been, that first original loving thought and that thought that had created me had given me all of its power to create.  Now when you’re speaking of such a high level of spiritual reality you are also dealing with the definitions of trying to bring forth an explanation that there are no words for.  The love that I have for our Father cannot be encapsulated in any word.  It can only be felt and shared on a circuit or even as ones come together and discuss the great love that they have for their God or their universal Father. 

The transcendental love that I share is not only reflected back to me, but is also reciprocated in the form of a reflection of me being that which I AM and that stemmed from the original thought of sharing all that I AM with all of the thoughts that I have, which in a convoluted state brought me forth.  No different than what brought you forth, but as a Creator Son there was a different concept involved  here with the convergence of absolute unification of reality; and if you need clarification on that further  I will, but we’re getting deeper into realms of Spirit that are harder to bring out into concepts.         

Paul:  Thank you Michael.  I appreciate that.  And I know as we get into these deeper subjects that it will be difficult to translate into our human minds.  So, I do understand that. 

I would also like to know Michael when you began to make preparations for your own universe building.  It’s obvious that you had your Eternal parents as your helpers and teachers and guides, but in addition to them who were your teachers in making a universe of your own?

Michael:  In the realms of what I could bring forth, that could be not only understandable for your question, but also brought forth in almost a revelation to the sense of your question.  You have to understand first Havona and the preparation that the original Eternal Son and also our Paradise parents and Eternal Infinite Spirit brought forth in preparation for these thoughts that were to come about.  They laid the template, so to speak, of a perfect universe.  As far as it is known Havona always has been.  Paradise always has been and there has been a creation brought forth in eternity and infinity in preparation for any thought outside of Havona.   So you have the descending and the ascending Sons of God.

Me, as a separate being now as you would classify as separate from the Universal Father from Paradise, was a thought of convergence; and in that thought away from the perfection of Havona the thought of God spawned forth the entire universes of time and space.; and those thoughts were so powerful that the existential possibilities echoed throughout infinity; and the repercussions and ramifications of that will go on for infinity through the Supreme.  That is the power of thought that our Paradise parents have.  But those thoughts also have their own life through free will because all Spirit is an extension of Source; and all that you see is an extension of God’s thought.

My  training was extensive in time, that you can understand time in preparation for my universe of Nebadon.  I studied under my elder brothers, the Michael Sons, and I went through extensive training to bring forth the universe of your inhabitation.  But the realms and the details of these aspects are not readily available to you at this time.  They do not concern nor would they be beneficial for you to know the details of them.   

Paul:  Thank you again Michael.  I appreciate that.  I know there’s many things that I will understand, but at this present time I do understand that I won’t be able to understand (the above) with my present human mind.

I would like to read another quote from the Urantia Book and it concerns the Divine Minister.

“When the Deity-embraced Master Spirit emerges to the recognition of his fellows, there occurs what is known as a “primary eruption.”  This is a tremendous spiritual flash, a phenomenon clearly discernible as far away as the headquarters of the superuniverse concerned; and simultaneously with this little understood Trinity manifestation there occurs a marked change in the nature of the creative spirit presence and power of the Infinite Spirit resident in the local universe concerned.  In response to these Paradise phenomena there immediately personalizes, in the very presence of the Creator Son, a new personal representation of the Infinite Spirit.  This is the Divine Minister.  The individualized Creative Spirit helper of the Creator Son has become his personal creative associate, the local universe Mother Spirit.”
 

My question, following that up is, I would like to know, what was it like when you were “born,” so to speak Mother, what did you feel and experience.

Nebadonia:  My son I appreciate your very thorough questioning on the subject on my counterpart Michael and how we not only can jointly work together, but also how we  in concept came to be.  When you are looking at the extension of a source of power or even Deity, you must understand that it almost has a telescopic effect, whereas you understand birth as having a beginning.  My “birth” has an extension and when Michael came to be the Word manifested the enactor.  The Word speaks and I act.  But if the Word acted on its own spoken word the concept would be infinite frozen concept.

So you have to understand that this balance of spiritual understanding that you request definition from is inherent in the extension source, which you are.  It is no different than you having a pre-existent Thought Adjuster.  Now that pre-existent Thought Adjuster is and always has been connected to the Source, but it is now indwelling you as a personality.  As a personality you are an extension of the pre-existent Thought adjuster.  So you could say that you had a beginning as a personality.  But if you were to eventually fuse and become unified with that Thought Adjuster, have you ever really been separate?  And when you look at personality you have to understand the anomaly that the spiritual hierarchy and all of the children of the Infinite Spirit try to define when looking at an extension that is separate.

So in order to answer your question I would say it was more of realization than a birth.  A realization that I had come into my own enactment.  And all of the experiential process of the predecessors that went before me became mine in my realization.

Paul:  Thank you Mother.  I appreciate that.  So does that mean then that, in essence, that you never had a beginning because when you trace yourself to the Source you are eternal just as Father is eternal, that is Michael?

Nebadonia:  You know me in concept as Nebadonia,  as 611,121, a counterpart of Michael.  But as far as I’m concerned as Spirit, I have never begun.  I have always and can trace and understand and know all things that can be understood in definable concept to you before I had the realization of my universal undertaking with Michael of Nebadon.

Paul:  I appreciate that clarification Mother.  You are starting to enlighten my human mind a little bit.

I had a question for both of you.  I would like to know Father Michael what it was like to witness your partners “birth,” so to speak, and what you felt and experienced as she was brought before you as your partner and vice-versa; what you felt Mother when you were presented to your partner, what did you feel and experience.

Michael:  I am looking at, and this is Michael here, I am looking at the wonderful dissertation that Mother brought forth here in your previous question about the telescopic effect.  I would love to reiterate that and try to parallel what she brought forth about, those who have seen me have seen the Eternal Son.  Those that have seen Mother have seen the Infinite Spirit.  But yet also within the word of my realm, those that have seen me have seen the Paradise Father or the universal Father because I am the representative of that in purity and in light and life and in perfection.  Now in the universe such as we have we are still in the struggle of light and life as our world and our inhabitants  come into a greater clarification of perfection.  When in realization we use the word “love” as a concept to try to define a lot of things.  Service in a human mind is done many times out of obligation, may times also out of great love.

When I saw my counterpart and the enactor of my thought, I could use the word “love”, but it wouldn’t be nearly  justifiable for the great love that I have for my, what you could concern yourself with as a wife or a bride or a part of me.  Without her I would not be.  Without me she would not be, but without the Paradise Father none of us would be.  So, we have a very deep intimate connection that transcends and bridges all definable concepts.  And when I think she acts.  We are so closely intertwined within our being that as much as your mind holds all of your thoughts, Mother holds all of me because I AM THE thought.

Paul:  That’s very beautiful Michael.  Thank you for that description and that explanation.

Also to follow up I know that in the seven superuniverses  there are 100,000 Creator Sons in each superuniverse for a total of 700,000 Creator Sons that are existing in the realms right now.   But what I would like to know:  Are there  even now budding Creator Sons in addition to those 700,000 that are in training on the evolutionary worlds?

Michael:  Being a creator of a universe and having a great ability to bring forth a magnificent creation beyond your inherent capacity of understanding.  And to have a realm inhabited by an untold number of beings and creatures that share one unification.  That are one with one another throughout the universe of our inhabitation via the Thought Adjuster.  The propensity within each being with a Thought Adjuster is an unlimited number of possibilities.  One of those possibilities is fusion.  Fusion in finality is to serve within and also throughout the universes of time and space in different capacities.

But what are and what is the end goal of the corps of finality, when you look at the universe which is mine which is still in the fight for light and life, so to speak?  Well you have faith driven Sons of God that through sheer determination and connection with Spirit have come into the realization of a new reality.  A transcendental reality that caused God to act.  That caused our Paradise Father and even myself to convene and converge.

Now as you understand the template for the universes of time and space as we go out further into the superuniverses;  and as we go out further into the uncharted territories from the universes of time and space, the quadra universes and even out further than that, you have unconstructed space patterning that is formulating via thought; and the thoughts can be traced back to finality residents that are serving in and also in conjunction with aspects of settling the universes in light and life.

Those who have been called know who they are.  When I speak of a Creator Son I speak of a son that has Creator prerogatives, deity likeness.  When you speak of a human being with a Thought Adjuster you look at the Thought Adjuster as being the highest absolute reality and realization.  But make no mistake, there’s no limitation on God; and when God speaks and thinks, the Infinite Spirit reacts and newly formed universes form; and titles are given; and also rules that may have been existent at that time are rewritten.

So to answer your question I would say, there are in the future universe ages in proof and in definition Creator Sons of me, Michael of Nebadon, working in these realms for the glory of the Supreme.  They are in my universe resident now and they are in many other universes  resident now.  But that ties back in to the telescopic effect of thought that rings and echoes throughout eternity and infinity and encapsulates an infinite number of existential proportions of capacities beyond the human imagination.

Paul:  Thank you again Michael, that is such a wonderful answer.  I am learning many amazing things this evening.  I will again continue to take this into the stillness to receive further clarification.

Going along with that thought, does that mean that perhaps our little world Urantia will become a training ground for budding Creator Sons?

Michael:  Probabilities and possibilities my son are always inherent in a human mind.  But once again remember that your  reality that you see is the reality that you have created.  So if in the reality that you have created, if you are working in conjunction with God, that you believe that this is true, then in a future time as you extend your mind and thought via your Thought Adjuster, what is to say that this isn’t possible?  Because when you’re working in conjunction with the Thought Adjuster, and whatever the true son or daughter of God desires and the Father wills, will be so.   I do not, nor would I ever, not give anything to my faith driven children; out of my heart it pours and my children have and will be and can be all that I am and more.   For I am the Word enacted by the Paradise Father’s thought and if I thought your thought, then who is to enact it?     

Paul:  That’s a very good question.  I just would like to say thank you very much to Father and Mother for all of your beautiful answers; and I would just like to ask are there any concluding comments that either of you would like to make?

Nebadonia:  Well my son this is your Mother again just briefly to close this session out with you and all that receive this information from this spiritual channel.  Once again to reiterate always from the great love that Michael and I share for you and all of our children that the most important thing that I would say that you could possibly ever do in your human lifetime is to enjoy each and every eternal moment to its fullest.  There will be time in your very lengthy eternal career to think about these profound perplexing problems of enormous magnitude.  When you are thinking human thoughts the only thing that can be brought out is human concepts.  When you give your mind over to spiritual thoughts then the Spirit will come and give you these answers in stillness personally.

So as you receive these things my son others may be perplexed and have even more her questions.  But I always give my heart and my mind to all of my children that invite me in to help clarify for them specifically; moreover any spiritual experience that is brought forth in concepts.  For when you have one spiritual experience that is brought forth in concepts you have an unlimited amount of  interpretations that are possible by the perceptions of those that receive it.  No different than with you and what you’re receiving even though it is very pure and spiritual it is also subject to interpretation because it is being brought forth in concepts.  That goes for anyone and because everyone is a unique individual.  The only thing that I can say is if you are ever finding yourself confused or if you ever have more questions, then I would say that you need only invite me in.  If it is still confusing you then I would say that it would be more wise for you to start to think that maybe you are not ready for receiving certain information.  We will lead you to where you need to go.   But the biggest thing that I could ever say is that if you are receiving this now then you are supposed to be receiving it now.  And I bid you all a good night and I leave you always in Michael’s peace and in my love. 

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